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Hello Andrew,=20

Today=E2=80=99s newsletter was inspired by a conversation I had recently on=
 my podcast with Dr. Jeremy Weisz, founder of Rise 25. He dropped a simple-=
but-brilliant tactic that I=E2=80=99d ignored for years=E2=80=94using my po=
dcast to meet potential customers. I tried it out recently and it worked so=
 well that I almost didn=E2=80=99t want to share it. But I couldn=E2=80=99t=
 do that so here we are.

TL;DR

1. Podcasting is the easiest way to open a door to your future customers, p=
artners, or people you just want to learn from.

2. Use each interview to genuinely learn from your guest and build a real c=
onnection.

3. If you spot a problem you can help with, offer to show them how to fix i=
t, no strings attached.=20

4. I=E2=80=99m using this for prospecting and booking customer development =
meetings.=20

### Podcasting Isn=E2=80=99t About Downloads. It=E2=80=99s About Relationsh=
ips.

Most of the time, people think podcasting is about building a huge audience=
 and chasing sponsorship dollars. It can be=E2=80=94but there=E2=80=99s ano=
ther way. Instead, think of it as the easiest path to connect directly with=
 potential customers, strategic partners, or fascinating people you just wa=
nt to know better.

When you invite someone to be a guest on your podcast, you=E2=80=99re openi=
ng the door for an authentic conversation=E2=80=94not a sales pitch, not a =
transactional meeting. Just two people genuinely exploring ideas and sharin=
g insights.

I=E2=80=99m currently using this tactic for Predictable Revenue and my side=
 project targeting property managers.=C2=A0

**For Predictable Revenue (building pipeline): **

I=E2=80=99m reaching out to founders to learn about their journey to produc=
t market fit. I=E2=80=99m genuinely interested in learning about the subjec=
t and sharing it with this newsletter. I=E2=80=99ve focused the list on peo=
ple that I suspect I can learn from and might be at a stage where they need=
 the type of help my company provides. I=E2=80=99m booking about 4 of these=
 a week by sending ~ 100 emails. These are the best cold email reply rates =
I=E2=80=99ve seen in a long time. Did I bury the lede? Yes, I did. If you d=
on=E2=80=99t read this far, you don=E2=80=99t get to learn :P=C2=A0

**For my side project (customer development):**

I=E2=80=99m reaching out to a specific type of property manager (broker/own=
ers) because I know they have the pain we want to solve. The episodes are f=
ocused on them teaching me something, related to property management, that =
they=E2=80=99re really good at. I=E2=80=99m learning and they get the expos=
ure of their expertise to our audience. After each recording, I have two re=
quests: first, I ask if they know anyone else who might be a good fit for t=
he show, and second, I find out if they=E2=80=99d be open to a customer dev=
elopment interview. I=E2=80=99m getting similar reply / conversion rates as=
 my campaign for PR.=C2=A0

### What if I don=E2=80=99t know anything about the space?

You don=E2=80=99t need deep expertise=E2=80=94just curiosity. Remember, you=
r role as a host isn=E2=80=99t to have all the answers. It=E2=80=99s to ask=
 thoughtful questions and genuinely listen to your guest=E2=80=99s insights=
. With the podcast I=E2=80=99m running for my side project, I know very lit=
tle about the property management space but I=E2=80=99m able to ask good qu=
estions so it works well.=C2=A0

If you=E2=80=99re worried about coming up with good questions, check out An=
drew Warner=E2=80=99s book,[ Stop Asking Questions: How to Lead High-Impact=
 Interviews and Learn Anything from Anyone](https://www.amazon.com/Stop-Ask=
ing-Questions-High-Impact-Interviews/dp/1737676540). It=E2=80=99s a great r=
esource to help you sharpen your interviewing skills and guide meaningful c=
onversations=E2=80=94even when you=E2=80=99re new to a topic.

### How it Works:

1. Find Interesting People to Talk To

Make a list of potential customers, partners, or simply industry experts yo=
u admire. Reach out with a simple invite: =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m really inter=
ested in your perspective and would love to have you on the show.=E2=80=9D

2. Start with Genuine Curiosity

During your conversation, focus on learning from your guest. Ask real quest=
ions. Listen carefully for challenges, struggles, or places where they migh=
t be stuck. Remember: the goal isn=E2=80=99t to pitch=E2=80=94it=E2=80=99s =
to listen, learn, and create a real connection.

3. If You Spot a Problem, Offer to Help (for Free!)

Here=E2=80=99s the secret sauce: If your guest shares a challenge you know =
how to solve, offer them a quick, no-strings-attached session. Jump on a qu=
ick call to walk them through it or send them a resource or template you=E2=
=80=99ve built.

No sales pitch. No expectations. Just genuine help.

Why does this work so well?

* Instant Trust: You=E2=80=99re immediately demonstrating real value.

* No Pressure: They don=E2=80=99t feel sold to because you=E2=80=99re genui=
nely just being helpful.

* Real Relationship Building: People remember kindness. If they need more s=
upport later, you=E2=80=99ll be their first call.

### How to Keep it Simple:

You don=E2=80=99t need fancy gear or a complicated setup:

* Riverside or Squadcast (part of Descript) + a decent USB microphone is al=
l you need.

* Both Descript and Riverside let you edit video like it=E2=80=99s a google=
 doc.=C2=A0

* Use Libsyn to distribute your episodes automatically to Spotify, Apple Po=
dcasts, and other platforms.

* Create a blog post and shareable social content for each episode on your =
site. It helps your guests share easily, builds credibility, and boosts you=
r SEO. As a bonus, it also gives your brand exposure to their network.=C2=
=A0

### Don=E2=80=99t Let the Relationship End at the Recording

* Send your guest easy-to-share social posts, snippets, or quotes from your=
 conversation.

* Look for opportunities to make introductions or reconnect later with help=
ful resources.

This approach is so simple, it almost feels like cheating=E2=80=94except it=
 isn=E2=80=99t. It=E2=80=99s authentic, it=E2=80=99s human, and it works.

Here=E2=80=99s my challenge to you: invite one person you really admire to =
be on your podcast. Listen carefully, be curious, and if you spot something=
 you can help with, offer freely.

See what happens=E2=80=94I bet it=E2=80=99ll surprise you in all the best w=
ays.

Happy Podcasting,=20

Collin=20



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f you spot a problem you can help with, offer to show them how to fix it, n=
o strings attached. </span></p></li><li class=3D"listItem ultext"><p style=
=3D"line-height:24px;padding:0px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><s=
pan style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">I=E2=80=99m using this for prospecting=
 and booking customer development meetings. </span></p></li></ol></div></td=
></tr><tr><td id=3D"podcasting-isnt-about-downloads-its" class=3D"dd" align=
=3D"left" valign=3D"top" style=3D"color:#2A2A2A;font-weight:normal;padding:=
0px 15px;text-align:left;"><h3 style=3D"color:#2A2A2A;font-weight:normal;">=
<span style=3D"color:rgb(67, 67, 67);">Podcasting Isn=E2=80=99t About Downl=
oads. It=E2=80=99s About Relationships.</span></h3></td></tr><tr><td class=
=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break=
:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 6=
2, 80);">Most of the time, people think podcasting is about building a huge=
 audience and chasing sponsorship dollars. It can be=E2=80=94but there=E2=
=80=99s another way. Instead, think of it as the easiest path to connect di=
rectly with potential customers, strategic partners, or fascinating people =
you just want to know better.</span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" alig=
n=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;=
"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Whe=
n you invite someone to be a guest on your podcast, you=E2=80=99re opening =
the door for an authentic conversation=E2=80=94not a sales pitch, not a tra=
nsactional meeting. Just two people genuinely exploring ideas and sharing i=
nsights.</span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"p=
adding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-he=
ight:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">I=E2=80=99m currently us=
ing this tactic for Predictable Revenue and my side project targeting prope=
rty managers.=C2=A0</span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left"=
 style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p style=
=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);"><b>For Predic=
table Revenue (building pipeline): </b></span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=
=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break=
:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 6=
2, 80);">I=E2=80=99m reaching out to founders to learn about their journey =
to product market fit. I=E2=80=99m genuinely interested in learning about t=
he subject and sharing it with this newsletter. I=E2=80=99ve focused the li=
st on people that I suspect I can learn from and might be at a stage where =
they need the type of help my company provides. I=E2=80=99m booking about 4=
 of these a week by sending ~ 100 emails. These are the best cold email rep=
ly rates I=E2=80=99ve seen in a long time. Did I bury the lede? Yes, I did.=
 If you don=E2=80=99t read this far, you don=E2=80=99t get to learn :P=C2=
=A0</span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"paddin=
g:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-height:=
24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);"><b>For my side project (custo=
mer development):</b></span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"lef=
t" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p sty=
le=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">I=E2=80=99m=
 reaching out to a specific type of property manager (broker/owners) becaus=
e I know they have the pain we want to solve. The episodes are focused on t=
hem teaching me something, related to property management, that they=E2=80=
=99re really good at. I=E2=80=99m learning and they get the exposure of the=
ir expertise to our audience. After each recording, I have two requests: fi=
rst, I ask if they know anyone else who might be a good fit for the show, a=
nd second, I find out if they=E2=80=99d be open to a customer development i=
nterview. I=E2=80=99m getting similar reply / conversion rates as my campai=
gn for PR.=C2=A0</span></p></td></tr><tr><td id=3D"what-if-i-dont-know-anyt=
hing-about-" class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" valign=3D"top" style=3D"color:#2A2=
A2A;font-weight:normal;padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;"><h3 style=3D"colo=
r:#2A2A2A;font-weight:normal;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(67, 67, 67);">What =
if I don=E2=80=99t know anything about the space?</span></h3></td></tr><tr>=
<td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;w=
ord-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(44, 62, 80);">You don=E2=80=99t need deep expertise=E2=80=94just curios=
ity. Remember, your role as a host isn=E2=80=99t to have all the answers. I=
t=E2=80=99s to ask thoughtful questions and genuinely listen to your guest=
=E2=80=99s insights. With the podcast I=E2=80=99m running for my side proje=
ct, I know very little about the property management space but I=E2=80=99m =
able to ask good questions so it works well.=C2=A0</span></p></td></tr><tr>=
<td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;w=
ord-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(44, 62, 80);">If you=E2=80=99re worried about coming up with good quest=
ions, check out Andrew Warner=E2=80=99s book,</span><a class=3D"link" href=
=3D"https://link.mail.beehiiv.com/ss/c/u001.UY7-jEMcRLZ5W6M0bzLpm-fbaBRlJOs=
fXaXgceFrqLBIgsWWxYyEspiTtCpSgKAiQ8-TdThXphh75p79-gmfv4KjNcLpUEqur1jn_2WDS2=
yH3ZysUDT5kC9dCOjw-pa8Uw20HPyskLIOLYJkdJWC9ouwof4U6soYqyt8K8mQ2-NZMn4Hxb90m=
Q4OUwJUnrKYu_iBUCmFwqT_7pIlT3CQqLflX1C90ez5IVp8aWFEwKKlcCuH8UBC4ATVuqdWpNH8=
5arzaFtT6XRHkGtz23AvLjWDMk0jQbctaqYmBSvRGrUCY0j3Ih5K5CkzE6wNwmhQ/4ez/6Kf7fb=
s-TtiFYjnPIxvI4w/h5/h001.0sXZ8b7ffKbtlEwrc0hlq-SB90uUb5nC4sk5ITwzexM" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer nofollow"><span> Stop Asking Questi=
ons: How to Lead High-Impact Interviews and Learn Anything from Anyone</spa=
n></a><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">. It=E2=80=99s a great resourc=
e to help you sharpen your interviewing skills and guide meaningful convers=
ations=E2=80=94even when you=E2=80=99re new to a topic.</span></p></td></tr=
><tr><td id=3D"how-it-works" class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" valign=3D"top" sty=
le=3D"color:#2A2A2A;font-weight:normal;padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;"><=
h3 style=3D"color:#2A2A2A;font-weight:normal;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(67,=
 67, 67);">How it Works:</span></h3></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D=
"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p=
 style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">1. Find=
 Interesting People to Talk To</span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" ali=
gn=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word=
;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Ma=
ke a list of potential customers, partners, or simply industry experts you =
admire. Reach out with a simple invite: =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m really interes=
ted in your perspective and would love to have you on the show.=E2=80=9D</s=
pan></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px =
15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"=
><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">2. Start with Genuine Curiosity</sp=
an></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 1=
5px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;">=
<span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">During your conversation, focus on l=
earning from your guest. Ask real questions. Listen carefully for challenge=
s, struggles, or places where they might be stuck. Remember: the goal isn=
=E2=80=99t to pitch=E2=80=94it=E2=80=99s to listen, learn, and create a rea=
l connection.</span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=
=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"li=
ne-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">3. If You Spot a Pr=
oblem, Offer to Help (for Free!)</span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" a=
lign=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-wo=
rd;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">=
Here=E2=80=99s the secret sauce: If your guest shares a challenge you know =
how to solve, offer them a quick, no-strings-attached session. Jump on a qu=
ick call to walk them through it or send them a resource or template you=E2=
=80=99ve built.</span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" sty=
le=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"=
line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">No sales pitch. N=
o expectations. Just genuine help.</span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd"=
 align=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-=
word;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);=
">Why does this work so well?</span></p></td></tr><tr><td style=3D"padding-=
bottom:12px;padding-left:37px;padding-right:27px;padding-top:12px;" class=
=3D"ee"><div style=3D"margin-left:0px;" class=3D"edm_outlooklist"><ul style=
=3D"list-style-type:disc;margin:0px 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0px;"><li class=
=3D"listItem ultext"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;padding:0px;text-align:le=
ft;word-break:break-word;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Instant T=
rust: You=E2=80=99re immediately demonstrating real value.</span></p></li><=
li class=3D"listItem ultext"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;padding:0px;text-=
align:left;word-break:break-word;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">N=
o Pressure: They don=E2=80=99t feel sold to because you=E2=80=99re genuinel=
y just being helpful.</span></p></li><li class=3D"listItem ultext"><p style=
=3D"line-height:24px;padding:0px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><s=
pan style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Real Relationship Building: People rem=
ember kindness. If they need more support later, you=E2=80=99ll be their fi=
rst call.</span></p></li></ul></div></td></tr><tr><td id=3D"how-to-keep-it-=
simple" class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" valign=3D"top" style=3D"color:#2A2A2A;f=
ont-weight:normal;padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;"><h3 style=3D"color:#2A=
2A2A;font-weight:normal;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(67, 67, 67);">How to Kee=
p it Simple:</span></h3></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=
=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"li=
ne-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">You don=E2=80=99t n=
eed fancy gear or a complicated setup:</span></p></td></tr><tr><td style=3D=
"padding-bottom:12px;padding-left:37px;padding-right:27px;padding-top:12px;=
" class=3D"ee"><div style=3D"margin-left:0px;" class=3D"edm_outlooklist"><u=
l style=3D"list-style-type:disc;margin:0px 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0px;"><l=
i class=3D"listItem ultext"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;padding:0px;text-a=
lign:left;word-break:break-word;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Ri=
verside or Squadcast (part of Descript) + a decent USB microphone is all yo=
u need.</span></p></li><li class=3D"listItem ultext"><p style=3D"line-heigh=
t:24px;padding:0px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Both Descript and Riverside let you edit video like =
it=E2=80=99s a google doc.=C2=A0</span></p></li><li class=3D"listItem ultex=
t"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;padding:0px;text-align:left;word-break:brea=
k-word;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Use Libsyn to distribute yo=
ur episodes automatically to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and other platforms.<=
/span></p></li><li class=3D"listItem ultext"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;p=
adding:0px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><span style=3D"color:rgb=
(44, 62, 80);">Create a blog post and shareable social content for each epi=
sode on your site. It helps your guests share easily, builds credibility, a=
nd boosts your SEO. As a bonus, it also gives your brand exposure to their =
network.=C2=A0</span></p></li></ul></div></td></tr><tr><td id=3D"dont-let-t=
he-relationship-end-at-th" class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" valign=3D"top" style=
=3D"color:#2A2A2A;font-weight:normal;padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;"><h3=
 style=3D"color:#2A2A2A;font-weight:normal;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(67, 6=
7, 67);">Don=E2=80=99t Let the Relationship End at the Recording</span></h3=
></td></tr><tr><td style=3D"padding-bottom:12px;padding-left:37px;padding-r=
ight:27px;padding-top:12px;" class=3D"ee"><div style=3D"margin-left:0px;" c=
lass=3D"edm_outlooklist"><ul style=3D"list-style-type:disc;margin:0px 0px;p=
adding:0px 0px 0px 0px;"><li class=3D"listItem ultext"><p style=3D"line-hei=
ght:24px;padding:0px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Send your guest easy-to-share social posts, snippe=
ts, or quotes from your conversation.</span></p></li><li class=3D"listItem =
ultext"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;padding:0px;text-align:left;word-break=
:break-word;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Look for opportunities=
 to make introductions or reconnect later with helpful resources.</span></p=
></li></ul></div></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"pad=
ding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-heig=
ht:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">This approach is so simple=
, it almost feels like cheating=E2=80=94except it isn=E2=80=99t. It=E2=80=
=99s authentic, it=E2=80=99s human, and it works.</span></p></td></tr><tr><=
td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;wo=
rd-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:r=
gb(44, 62, 80);">Here=E2=80=99s my challenge to you: invite one person you =
really admire to be on your podcast. Listen carefully, be curious, and if y=
ou spot something you can help with, offer freely.</span></p></td></tr><tr>=
<td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;w=
ord-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(44, 62, 80);">See what happens=E2=80=94I bet it=E2=80=99ll surprise you=
 in all the best ways.</span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"le=
ft" style=3D"padding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p st=
yle=3D"line-height:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Happy Podc=
asting, </span></p></td></tr><tr><td class=3D"dd" align=3D"left" style=3D"p=
adding:0px 15px;text-align:left;word-break:break-word;"><p style=3D"line-he=
ight:24px;"><span style=3D"color:rgb(44, 62, 80);">Collin </span><br></p></=
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